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Revision as of 04:29, 20 February 2019

Seattle Polyglots Wiki / Mandarin

Mandarin is the official language of China and Taiwan. It is spoken by many people. The English word for the language comes from a portuguese word for a type of minister. 官话 We also commonly call it Chinese, but there are many Chinese languages. SeeAlso: Cantonese, Chinese Characters, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language, Chinese Culture

This page is intended to list resources for people learning Mandarin in Seattle, Washington, USA, and link to general resources, and host or link to study materials and curriculum for Seattle Chinese learners.

We can Add a link with a '+' or '*' pointing to our user pages (User:YourUserName) to express your thoughts about the resource.

Because Chinese has a writing based on meaning with little phonetic help, it may be necessary to use extra tools and study extra. Also, China has censored internet access, so they have developed their own tools and social media, so this page may list more things than other languages need to, because reading and writing are so difficult, and the programs we are used to using are often not available.

Individuals

On your user page, include a wiki link to Category:Language for languages that you wish to interact with, and a list to the level you want.and hopefully technology will allow a list to be shown for each language. That way individuals won't have to edit each page to include themselves in a list of languages... AirOp is working on this convention...

For now one can Put your user tag into the page for your level. If someone makes curriculum appropriate for a level post it there. We may wish to refactor the groups into native, advanced, intermediate, novice, day1, but I made the links for HSK levels. It's ok to throw stuff to the wall and see what sticks.

Groups

Seattle has a number of groups for people who are learning Chinese.

Levels and Testing

http://www.wmuconfucius.org/HSKK_practice

HSK

A number of people are preparing to take HSK tests at UW 2019/3/14 is the deadline for signing up more details will hopefully get filled in

Mandarin Native , Mandarin HSK 5-6 , Mandarin HSK 4 Mandarin HSK 3 , Mandarin HSK 2 , Mandarin HSK 1 Mandarin PinYin , Mandarin 0

Education Institutes

There are a number of language schools that teach mandarin in the area. If you are involved with them, you are encouraged to list them.

Colleges and Universities

Private Schools

Tutor Companies

Individuals who Tutor

Popular Material

If you want to form a study group with people who are studying the same material as you, or if you need an idea of what material to study, this will be a prominent feature of the wiki.

http://www.learningchinesethroughstories.com/

du chinese app

duolingo

http://mandarincorner.org and youtube

Text Books

Text Name Dialog complexity New Words Grammar AudioMaterial Workbook Translation Instruction Qualities Apps and 4th Party Help Answer Key Ruby Text Simplified Traditional Who Uses It?
HSK Standard Course 4lines with clear context with dialog a few points per dialog (after, but translation goes along with) CD included Yes With Dialog (very good) English and Chinese (very good) Most Yes, PinYin Yes No Confucius Institute, HanBan,
Integrated Chinese 15 lines+ events are not clear even in English after dialog, requires page flipping or a second copy of the book. Not upto date with current language usage, you will insult people. Many with complex highlighting of the dialog and reference notes (after the dialog) Download with authentication Yes in the back of the book (hard to use) English only (doesn't expose learners to important concepts gradually) Yellowbridge.com Teacher PDF, sometimes baffling answers NO Yes Yes UW,WSU,Shoreline CC, Seattle Central
Easy Chinese 2-6 lines before (page flips required) Notes on the side MP3s and DVD included No *Exercises included on the side English and Chinese unsure unsure Yes* Kinda --easy to see pinyin Yes No
Chinese Grammar Wiki Book
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Main_Page

HSK Standard Course , Authorized by Hanban, is developed under the joint efforts of Beijing Language and Culture University Press and Chinese Testing International (CTI).  +++ User:AirOp Short Manageable Dialogs, Logical progression of vocabulary. --- Only available in simplified

Integrated Chinese  [Unfortunately] it has become the leading Chinese language textbook series in the United States and beyond.  It appears that the 4th edition may have handled a few of the most egregious of faults. including section titles that were longer than the lesson (audio material example:example: integrated chinese level 1 part 2 chapter 11 part 3 section a, driving the wrong way to chinatown, 1 )

https://www.cheng-tsui.com/browse/integrated-chinese-4th-edition

Poor Dialogs (overly complex and not realistic) Poor usability (required flipping pages to go between dialog and definitions and pronunciation, text with traditional characters has been blotchy on earlier editions as to be hard to read. 2nd Edition had a good character workbook because it was hand written, so it is possible to guess the flow of writing with a ballpoint pen, but 3rd edition has computer font.

3rd edition still had Awkward level 1 part1 and level 1 part2. ..

The annotations for the new grammar constructs are just too complicated to all be put into one dialog.

Since this is standard at universities and colleges around seattle, you may have to get a yellowbridge.com account to practice your vocabulary before.

New Practical Chinese Reader is another book that some have used

Easy Chinese

Add your textbook to the list!

Technology

Messengers

  • WeChat is the main instant messenger in China. Most others are blocked. Contents are assuredly available to the Chinese Government. It has a very convenient translation tool for messages, and it can send voice clips. When using this app to help practice be sure to speak slowly and clearly, and in short clips.
  • QQ This is another popular messenger application in China

Videos and YouTube:

Drill and Practice Apps:

Reading and Articles

  • Du Chinese -- Professionally recorded audio, well done, limited free content, expensive for full
  • Du Shu

Dictionaries:

https://www.pleco.com/

  • Has an excellent screen reader and ability to purchase multiple dictionaries.
  • Can
  • It is very cumbersome switching between English and Chinese

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.embermitre.hanping.app.lite&hl=en_US

Newspapers

Seattle has many chinese newspapers available.

Epoch Times -- Traditional characters, freely available

China Daily has been competing with Seattle Times for curb space. It is often available for as little as 25 cents. It may be editorially influenced by the Chinese Government.

There are many other free newspapers available at Chinese grocery stores, some assembled by expats

Markets

99 ranch market in Kent

Restaurants

List restaurants where they are ok with us attempting to order in Mandarin.

Chinatown

Much of the Seattle Chinatown speaks cantonese... many people will speak a little Mandarin.

Chinese Get togethers

There are a number of churches that meet in the area that speak Mandarin Chinese. eccseattle.org is one.

there is a 1.5 generation asians meetup group.

Libraries

Seattle and King county library systems have many books and videos in Chinese language.

The Seattle Central Library has a Chinese section in their children's library, many have pronunciation help.

User:AirOp has 3 backpacks full of novice books and stories in Chinese with PinYin. If you would like to borrow one just ask. 十万个儿童为什么 ShiWan Ge ErTong Wei ShenMe 100,000 Children's Whys is my favorite book because I know about the topics and I can quickly pickup grammar and new vocabulary that I will need frequently. Others arn't as interested, but these are not abstract stories.

Another favorite book of mine is about Chinese Proverbs ((All of this stuff will probably end up moving to my User:AirOp page)

Poetry

Classic Books

Textbooks

If you live in the seattle area and have these books go ahead and make a + next to them. This is a living document.

HSK series +++

Easy Chinese +

Integrated Chinese +

Movies

Maps

amap (when used with pleco, it is possible for a foreigner with 1 quarter of chinese to figure out the bus system)

baidu

Browser Extensions:

This makes it so we can put a cursor over a word, and see the definition and pronunciation from within the web browser.

http://zhongwen-chrome.blogspot.com/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/zhongwen-chinese-english/kkmlkkjojmombglmlpbpapmhcaljjkde

Perapera Chinese Popup Dictionaryby JorisKok

Screen Readers

Pleco (draw a box, or intercept text directly), works most of the time better than anything.

hanping ( drag a marker to the text, sometimes works better than pleco.

Google Translate -- Take a screenshot and you can use this

Translator Apps 翻译 fanyi

Bing -- works in China

Google -- can download offline tool, some blocked in China

Baidu

Websites

  • Yellowbridge.com Has excellent etymology resources and ties in with college curriculum.

Television and Shows:

Growing Up with Chinese (search YouTube, CCTV)

Firefly

http://cctv.cn CCTV (use a screen reader)

Broadcast channel 46.1 AATV http://www.aattv.com/

Radio

https://chineseradioseattle.com/

Worldwide Facebook Groups:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1149591165162853/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/276152432398476/

Additional Overview Trivia and Notes

Other ways to say Mandarin Chinese: 国语 guoyu (country language) zhong1wen2(Chinese Language), 汉语 han4yu3(Han ethnicity language), 普通话 pu tong hua (common language)

Tones, Characters, Grammar,

The characters can be traditional (Hong Kong, Taiwan and expats often use them) or Simplified.. The simplified characters have less strokes.

Romanization

There are a number of ways to romanize the words. Pinyin (Pinyin: pin1yin1, Trad: 拼音), ZhuYin, WadeGiles

The most common text book in colleges near Seattle (across the US?) is the Integrated Chinese series. Some learning, including AirOp do not like this book series, and prefers the HSK series of books (published by whom?).